Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Productionalize, Maybe

This blogpost is brought to you by myself + Atul Varma.

This week, I am working to streamline the process for contribution to webmaker Projects. Currently, that means fixing the process so it works internally, and then setting the stage for larger community involvement. I  pulled together some of my thoughts on the current process and a strawman to get things rolling in the vidcast below.

(WARNING: there is some Jess Klein singing action goin' on)


 

Note: I made Chloe look less skilled than she actually is for the purpose of highlighting some flaws in our current process.  Chloe is an uber talented designer and educator, and as I have said many times- there is so much more to the design process than code (ideation, asset creation, designing learning experiences etc.)!

So while making the vidcast, Atul and I talked about the areas of concern and he came up with an interesting solution prototype. Essentially, he took the idea of the form and put it INSIDE the actual project (this is using Thimble as an example). So check it out:


Here is a popcorn project "diy recipe" being made, using Thimble- although this process could be used to make any kind of project (Thimble and Popcorn included). The difference is that if it's a Thimble project, the project page needs to link to the Thimble project... because the project page contains the metadata for the Thimble project. If you take on look on the left panel, you are coding in all of the form fields.... which you then click publish and get: 


You see? It's a thimble page, crazy. Obviously- a bunch more work needs to go into this and we still need to resolve the majority of the questions that my vidcast posed, but I think that it's starting to get us moving into a good direction with some creative solutions.

200 comments:

Atul said...

Nice! To expound on the "a learning project is just a published Thimble page" idea: because the page contains semantic markup, we can have a scraper that just finds and indexes all Thimble pages that appear to be learning projects. The gallery can be automatically generated that way.

Of course, this would be a lot easier to manage if it were actually possible to change an existing thimble page, since having to create a whole new page/URL for a simple typo fix will result in a ridiculous number of pages that are very similar. But one advantage of unifying the webmaker CMS with thimble is that any improvements we make to one automatically "upgrade" the other!

Carla Casilli said...

Love the video: more singing on all Mozilla videos! Also, I'm wondering if it might make sense to pull out your primary points in bullet format directly below the video? That way there's a clear call to action for those who skip it (at their own loss).

Also, I really like the idea of embedding project creation within Thimble. There are a few considerations, though: 1) we compel people to use this one tool to add to project groups (potential bottleneck & failure point) and 2) we ask people to think in code without acknowledging that story, idea, implementation may all happen outside of this tool. In other words, we miss an opportunity to explain what makes a good project outside of code comments.

Some of this is easily remedied by allowing multiple methods of project creation and a project/micro-site that describes what makes a good project (not simply a blog post).

Brett Gaylor said...

Nice one, Jess! +1 to what Carla said - a few bullet points here would be good so we can give the most concrete feedback.

Around 6:00 - your proposal is essentially that we have a form where we can point to a published project that then becomes a "template project", correct?

I think this is definitely something we need!

One other area that needs some thought and engineering, though, is our process for turning something that is a published project, either in popcorn or thimble, and making this a project that others can build on. Essentially, a "save as template" process for both Popcorn and Thimble.

They're likely different enough that we wouldn't be able to have one common engineering solution for both, but for partners and contributors, it would be great if within the tool itself, you could submit it for consideration as a template/starter content. So if that ask to a partner is to author a popcorn project (here you've used the Museum of Natural History as an example), I'd like them to be able to author that project within the tool, just like any other user would, and submit that final project for consideration as starter content.

I'm pretty sure this is what you're proposing, but there seems to be a missing link between a form where we can give a published URL, and a solution that takes the metadata that a user creates when authoring and turns this into a starter project.

With Popcorn, this is essentially just a bunch of JSON. This JSON is contained within a published project, so im sure a motivated tinkerer (cough) could whip up some sort of scrapping thingy :)

Nice post!

Chris McAvoy said...

A+, the video was awesome. A few thingz:

1) A form for project information is a good idea.
2) A magic publishing button is also a good idea.
3) Representing project metadata on the published page in some way is interesting...but need to think about it a bit more.
4) I like the idea of using Thimble as the project construction tool, but think the actual project metadata needs a guided form rather than meta-markup.

One the purely administrative engineer-y side of things,

a) Everyone always wants dedicated resources, but there's usually a better way to structure it.
b) publish on a regular day is another common go-to when there's workflow issues, but also usually isn't a good thing. It ends up stifling someone's creativity at some point, and then the whole system breaks down. It's better to go asynch from the beginning, and just figure out how to work with a constantly deploying sort of mentality.

leah atplay said...

very helpful and thoughtful esp. after working on this with a couple of Olivers!

Re: comments
Agree that demystifying project creation process is imp. Despite being educators somehow many don't get the diff between project and webpage. And how to make a project with wide application.

Do agree with Carla that so much happens outside of Thimble that we may be missing an opp to teach people more about how projects are designed and what makes a good challenge.

Love the community review process idea. For all reasons you mention. Lets the makers speak and vote and interact freely. we also get to learn more about who is engagement/interests.

+1 to Brett's save as template idea

would encourage common vocabulary as process is streamlined.

-Dedicated resources and team to help with this process seems essential. Really need help explaining process both technically and conceptually to people.

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